I do have a reverance for life, but if and when I come to be 85 yrs old, I would like to have the final input into this situation. Life should be cherished when an objective is in view, but not to be pursued for its own sake like the Holy Grail. My folks @ 77 have come to the point when philosophy and common sense overtakes our day to day concerns. I would submit that a minority of us Surgeons will attain this age with reasonable faculties. If your buddy's dad has a wish to find out "what's going on tomorrow?"...so be it. It is his choice. He is healthy today and may not be tomorrow, but what about the rest of us. At 86, my parents shouldn't be submitting to pneumonectomy unless there's an overpowering reason to do so. Why should we celebrate our lives in longevity as a quantifier. Our parents will live long in our souls whatever their age. ...Whew, I should have had a malt, philosophy not my forte.